hanson
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Apolo who?? Oh, I remember now.
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Post by hanson on Jan 20, 2008 22:01:29 GMT -5
don't even read that crap at YouTube--it is not worth your time--we all know the person Apolo is and most of those posters are ignorant and uninformed---  Yup, just feast your eyes on the videos and not the words.   |
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breeze
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Post by breeze on Jan 20, 2008 22:05:52 GMT -5
I didn't understand the point "justmeagain" was trying to make or why people are angry with her. (scratches head) I must have missed something from way back. Oh, well. (edit: oh, I just read the National Pics thread. Now I get it.)
Anyway, about this idea that Apolo cheated somehow. I've watched his racing tapes over and over again, and I know with certainty that he did not cheat in the Olympics 2002.
This is what I think happened. The Koreans arrived with big ambitions for a sweep of gold medals. Korean coaches, I think, are some of the hardest, harshest trainers in the world. These Korean skaters were young - I can imagine they felt they had no choice but to win or they would have disgraced themselves and their country. So desperation set in for them when they saw Apolo in the lead.
First, Li tried to pass him, made contact with Apolo (deliberate? maybe) and slowed him down. Then Ahn tried to pass him - I could easily see that there was no room but he went for it, and when he fell, I think he deliberately grabbed on to Apolo and caused the big wipeout. Watch him as he falls. He's looking at Apolo and his arm went straight for his legs. Apolo says Ahn was trying to break his own fall when he grabbed, but I think he was trying to make Apolo fall. If a Korean couldn't win, then Apolo wouldn't win either. I know, I know, Ahn seems like such a nice guy, especially when he later became friends with Apolo. But when you're very young and desperate, you do foolish things without thinking.
Then we get to the other Korean skater who threw down his flag when he was disqualified and Apolo won the gold. Of course he made an illegal block or pass; it was too d**n close. Desperation again. He was on the outside and Apolo was neck and neck with him on the inside. With one burst of speed, Apolo on the inside would have crossed the line first. It was so obvious to me. And the illegal block was obvious to the officials too, and that's why the Korean skater was disqualified.
In Olympics 2006, I could see that Apolo had moved forward about a second before the starting bell. The camera caught him in slow motion, so that one second looks longer, but I think it was probably less than a second. If it had been longer, the officials would have disqualified him. Perhaps it was so negligible that they allowed it. I'm not the expert, the judging officials know the rules.
So all this talk about Apolo being a cheater is just sour grapes from sore losers, not to mention pure malice. We know who the real cheaters are - but I won't go into that. What really makes me mad is that people reading those negative comments on YouTube might actually believe them, especially if they're not familiar with Apolo or speedskating.
Didn't have to say all this, because you all probably know more about what happened. But, boy, it felt good to say it.
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Post by Elle on Jan 28, 2008 19:57:35 GMT -5
Hello dear Apolonians.......
I wonder why it is that lately I have began to feel so lonely. could it be something that I've brought upon meself or a jinx fallen upon me? Am lost and cant seem to find my way back into reality or fantasy. I feel meself lost in between on unknown worlds. I swear I've not inhaled anything nor consumed any Mayan ritual substances.
One thing that saddens me the most is that I seem to be losing my Apolo obssesion. Trust me girls that I do not care about the fact that I am a 28 yearl woman with the hots on an American whom I will never meet. What coudl it be? Could it be that I am trying to find love elsewhere. But, I don't want to love anyone else. I am sick of real people. *I am too bloody strange* I need love.....
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Post by jennaceeta25 on Jan 28, 2008 20:06:29 GMT -5
Hello dear Apolonians....... I wonder why it is that lately I have began to feel so lonely. could it be something that I've brought upon meself or a jinx fallen upon me? Am lost and cant seem to find my way back into reality or fantasy. I feel meself lost in between on unknown worlds. I swear I've not inhaled anything nor consumed any Mayan ritual substances. One thing that saddens me the most is that I seem to be losing my Apolo obssesion. Trust me girls that I do not care about the fact that I am a 28 yearl woman with the hots on an American whom I will never meet. What coudl it be? Could it be that I am trying to find love elsewhere. But, I don't want to love anyone else. I am sick of real people. *I am too bloody strange* I need love..... Elle, I'm sorry you feel that way.. I'm kinda on that downhill too..I've kinda changed my obsession as well. But I don't want to let Apolo go, either. He's a sweet man I wanna meet but not fall in love with. AND I met so many lovely people, would people be mad if I'm not so in love with him like I used to be? I don't wanna be a mean person or anything..I'm sorry if I disappointed you all..  I just wanted to get my feelings out.. AND OT ..I'm thinking of changing my major to Photography now since I've been through the Processing of film and I absoutly love it! But all my 2 and a half years of Graphic Design went down the hill..I feel bad for my mom but she said that whatever I do that makes me happy, she'll be happy too! but why do I still feel bad..  It's kindness syndrom.  I just wanted to get that out..thanks for reading.  |
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breeze
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Post by breeze on Feb 12, 2008 12:08:11 GMT -5
A memorable quote (re: Olympics 2002) from John Coyle's Official Blog: (quote) Asked for his views on the events that had unfolded, it would have been understandable if Apolo had been less than charitable, especially given the stiches he would undergo, and the scrutiny he received for his “lucky” prior finish, and the fact that he was clearly intefered with… Apolo could have said things such as “it was unfair, I had it in the bag, the Korean skater grabbed my leg, Steven wasn’t even a contender…” but true to the culture of the sport, and out of respect for the dozens, if not hundreds of races that Steven didn’t win under similar circumstances, Apolo merely shrugged, smiled, and uttered those seemingly innocuous yet significant words repeated over and over in this turbulent and exciting world: “That’s Short Track.” It sure is. (end of quote) The previous paragraphs before this one talks abut the unusual camaraderie between speedskaters from all countries. Very interesting too. You can find all this at the end of the post at johnkcoyle.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/torino-3-12-a-short-track-speedskating-primer/Okay, so if Apolo gets robbed of a medal or gets an unfair ruling or some skater messes with him, I am not going to be upset. I'll just say to myself "that's short track." If Apolo can do it, so can I.  |
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noemi
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Post by noemi on Apr 19, 2008 23:56:04 GMT -5
People can't forget about the past and the insults all the fights and sufferings, but today is the present people change people forgive.
The thing that join us is one thing and Apolo is that thing.
I don't read I can't hear your negativity,
all I wear is love for Apolo in my red white and blue tee.
I may be blinded with obsesion or love but I am happy for it, and in my heart and soul I know he is true and my everyday sadnes he stiches and sows.
I don't know if I am doing this right, but all I ask is not to fight.
He will be sadden and I won't have him to walk me to my fantasy garden.
I believe my love and my love I'll believe forever, call me crazy call me blind but whatever!
I never read YouTube's comments they always get me upset
and to cure my anger I search for Apolo Anton Ohno "toxic" and my anger is all set.
ps I hope nobody throws up,lol, I just wanted to get everyone in a good mood after all of this.
Kudos!!!!!!
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Post by jennaceeta25 on Apr 20, 2008 9:56:35 GMT -5
Noemi, you're back!  You have a great poetry writing! You're very talented. btw, Happy Birthday!  |
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Post by Elle on Apr 29, 2008 2:39:17 GMT -5
As I try to be respectful to the feelings of others, I come here to vent on my thoughts.
It is 9:30am in London and I am listening to my very own Coldplay marathon which means, I need my Apolo fantasy. As i was going through my wardrobe, i found this pair of old jeans. The matter is that those are the same jeans I was wearing the one day that I went to my Pub which was particularly transmitting the 2006 Winter Olympics and that was the day, I think it was Feb. 13, on which I first saw Apolo for the first time. i remember just looking at this kid doing major damage in that ice arena, and that damage was not to himself but the sort of damage one has any control over when one happens to be a bloody beast at wot they do.
I though, "Bugger, the kid is sexily cute" and that was the beginning of this torrid on and off affair with a fantasy that has given me more pleasure than any other relationship, thus far. Apolo is there for me when most needed and I will be there when he needs of me the most. However, there are always those lovely times in which we disappear from one another but then something happens and were back at square one, like old mates.
Wot I most like about this sort of relationship is its anonymity, space and support and understanding for one another. it is quite close to perfection. On the other hand, i am afraid that if i was ever to meet the real person, my illusion would become a reality and quite frankly, I like this spurious relationship rather than to face certainty. Sometime is better to dream and never wake up.
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Post by susie on Apr 29, 2008 18:14:30 GMT -5
Aww, now Elle, I do understand the power of a good fantasy. But trust me girl, ya' gotta fall into those beautiful green eyes at least ONCE.  He won't disappoint. Promise!  London is such a fantastic city. I haven't been there in ages. You have the most scrumptious men. Do me a favor and flirt with one of them for me, will you? Tell the bloke that you're doing it for a chum across the pond. |
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Post by Elle on May 1, 2008 17:46:15 GMT -5
Aww, now Elle, I do understand the power of a good fantasy. But trust me girl, ya' gotta fall into those beautiful green eyes at least ONCE. He won't disappoint. Promise! London is such a fantastic city. I haven't been there in ages. You have the most scrumptious men. Do me a favor and flirt with one of them for me, will you? Tell the bloke that you're doing it for a chum across the pond. Thanks for the most grateful thoughts Susie dear friend. I swear, there are times in which I do nothing but night and daydream about Apolo and it comes a time in which I realize that I have not even visited this site. I have dated some awful dudes and then I find some candid and sweet blokes. My favourite was this guy who used to surprise me with random stuff. He is quite a catch but, I went somewhere else in mind and we drifted apart. Now, I think Apolo makes me feel young for knowing that I have a sorta "celebrity" crush makes me feel as if am still in secondary school. It's super cute and have to admit how much I love being able to observe a person without the fright of being discovered looking at him. It's bloody fantastic. And as you have asked, there are seriously sexy and cute guys here. certainly, I shall try to date as many as time permits. I respects your orders and I will follow them to the bit  |
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Post by Bella on May 4, 2008 0:03:10 GMT -5
Hahaha, Elle, you wild thing you!
Interesting, on a sociological level, this concept of "observing" someone without their knowing...
We live in an age of video surveillance and nanny cams which make secret observations a routine and accepted practice. Reality TV has desensitized us to the notion of privacy. Tabloids challenge their Paparazzi henchmen, flaunting incredibly invasive celebrity pics, the most prized of which are photos that catch the celebrity unawares.
We also live in the internet age, where more information travels farther and is available to more people than ever before. The opportunities for voyeurism have never been more expansive; yet there remains a certain social stigma about it. We hiss at the stalker and slap the wrist of the peeping Tom.
How would that original peeping Tom have viewed our modern world? Tom the butcher, as the story goes, who left his shutters open and beheld fair Lady Godiva on her legendary midnight ride through town au natural, everyone else having shuttered their windows as ordered - how would he feel about his name being used as a modern day term for a pervert?
As W.H. Auden has said, "Peeping Toms/are never praised, like novelists or bird watchers,/for their keenness of observation."
Those are my deep thoughts for the night...
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