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Post by angelina on Oct 11, 2007 5:32:02 GMT -5
Me too, lily! And if I were able to see Helio play with Andre, I'd be in heaven!
linmiste, I have no doubt that Helio will continue to improve and amaze us. He has already blown me away, so any further improvement will be icing on the cake!
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Post by angelina on Oct 11, 2007 5:35:58 GMT -5
The accompanying text to Julianne & Derek's ET interview (they will be on the show tomorrow night, Thursday): www.etonline.com/news/2007/10/54701/index.html"Dancing with the Stars"' brother and sister duo -- DEREK HOUGH and JULIANNE HOUGH -- drop by Stage 28 for a two-on-one interview with ET's MARY HART. The dancers tell the ET host that they started dancing as kids, growing up in Utah.
"My mom saw us as the blond OSMOND family," Derek explains. "We started playing drums and piano at a young age, and then we went to dance classes. To tell you the truth, I didn't like it."
That all changed for Derek when he discovered that girls liked boys who could dance.
The two began their association with "Dancing with the Stars" as backup dancers on the summer tour, and then were invited to join the show.
Julianne, of course, is last year's dance champion. And, if early indications hold true, she and her new partner HELIO CASTRONEVES have a shot at this year's disco ball trophy.
"It was funny because everybody was, 'Helio's Brazilian, he has that Latin blood,' and he does somewhere, but I have been trying to pull it out of him," says Julianne, rating her dance partner. "He says, 'I am in a race car. If I move my hips, it is dangerous." I have been so blessed. Last season, I had APOLO [ANTON OHNO] as a partner. Both of them are genuine sweet people. That makes my life so much easier."
As for whether the men or the women are stronger competitors this season, Derek comments, "I think the females are always a little more serious as far as wanting to be the best ballroom dancer. The men are, 'Hey, let's learn some dancing, but have a great time,' which is why I think they do so well, because that comes across."_____________________ Helio mentioned the women are more competitive as well. It really does look like the guy celebs are having more fun. |
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Post by number1fan on Oct 12, 2007 14:11:20 GMT -5
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Post by lisam on Oct 12, 2007 15:01:46 GMT -5
Thats interesting you brought this up because I'm LDS, have been my whole life. I've always wondered how devout she is because there are certain details about her that have me puzzled. Yes she is from Utah and comes from a big family but that doesn't mean she was raised a Mormon, she could of been baptized later in life. I know Zack is Mormon so that says something about what kind of guys she wants to date, then again maybe she doesn't care whether they're Mormon or not. So I guess your question is, is she only going to date guys who are Mormon? Most people who are active Mormons date and marry those who are too. But she has such a different life than your average Mormon, heck even just your average person, but we're talking about her being Mormon, so thats why I can't tell how devout she is, well there are other things about her life that make me wonder too, which is hard for me to go into detail right now. So we will just have to wait and see what happens. Another thing that I've wondered about is her brother Derek shows on his myspace that he's not Mormon and from what I've seen and read, if he was baptized LDS, then he doesn't practice it. I don't know if I was much help but if you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask. |
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Post by number1fan on Oct 12, 2007 17:12:46 GMT -5
Thats interesting you brought this up because I'm LDS, have been my whole life. I've always wondered how devout she is because there are certain details about her that have me puzzled. Yes she is from Utah and comes from a big family but that doesn't mean she was raised a Mormon, she could of been baptized later in life. I know Zack is Mormon so that says something about what kind of guys she wants to date, then again maybe she doesn't care whether they're Mormon or not. So I guess your question is, is she only going to date guys who are Mormon? Most people who are active Mormons date and marry those who are too. But she has such a different life than your average Mormon, heck even just your average person, but we're talking about her being Mormon, so thats why I can't tell how devout she is, well there are other things about her life that make me wonder too, which is hard for me to go into detail right now. So we will just have to wait and see what happens. Another thing that I've wondered about is her brother Derek shows on his myspace that he's not Mormon and from what I've seen and read, if he was baptized LDS, then he doesn't practice it. I don't know if I was much help but if you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.
i'm so glad we have our own lds member here. 
here's what i've learned from being on the other sites may-july...julianne was planning on a temple wedding with zach which to me means she is very devout.
can you expand on this. oh, and derek is not a mormon. |
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Post by Laura666 on Oct 12, 2007 17:18:36 GMT -5
Its possible for Derek not to be mormon..my hubbys best freind was raised strict morman..and he is very far away from that now..but his mom and grandparents are very strict..so I guess its just a choice as you get older...
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Post by linmiste on Oct 12, 2007 19:43:26 GMT -5
Its possible for Derek not to be mormon..my hubbys best freind was raised strict morman..and he is very far away from that now..but his mom and grandparents are very strict..so I guess its just a choice as you get older... Like most religions, it makes sense that as you get older you choose whether or not this is something you believe, a faith that is your own. I think in all religions, whether Mormon, Muslim, Christian, Jewish, etc. you can be one by culture, but not really embrace the tenets personally OR you can be one by choice, personally believing and embracing it as truth OR you can leave it for another religion or agnosticism. It is important that we think about what we believe. Perhaps Julianne is really exploring her faith now. Perhaps this is the first time it's really been challenged. As for where a Mormon can be married, I am guessing that in the Mormon faith, marriage in the Temple is more based on the man's beliefs than the woman's, in the sense that he needs to be a member of the church. Does she? I could be completely wrong! LisaM, do you have any insight on this? |
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Post by lisam on Oct 13, 2007 1:52:05 GMT -5
A Temple marriage is not taken lightly, not that any other type of marriage isn't, but its different. Most marriage ceremonies say "till death do we part" which is saying, our marriage ends after we die. But with a Temple marriage, we are married forever, will still be husband and wife after we die. So both the man and the woman have to really be ready for that kind of commitment. I'm not quite sure what you mean linmiste, when you said a Temple marriage is more based on the man's beliefs than the woman's. Because they both have to have the same faith, same beliefs to get married in the Temple, so yes they both need to be members. Its funny when Derek made that comment about his mom saw them as the blond Osmond family, because as you all probably know that the Osmonds, Marie and Donnie are Mormon. I know he said in the interview that it was because they all sang, danced and played musical instruments but was it also because they are Mormon too? I'm not sure we will ever know but I guess it doesn't really matter, none of my business. I don't know why I'm so curious about this subject.  |
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Post by tdav on Oct 13, 2007 16:30:25 GMT -5
I was looking up Astrology, so I thought I would post Apolo and Julianne's Atrological compatabilities. (from two sites)
Cancer and Gemini:
This is a very popular pairing. These two meet and feel destiny from their very first conversation. An intense physical attraction could lead to a sexual relationship or perhaps a marriage.
The key to making this work is both must be willing to forgive and forget. One key issue here is Gemini’s need for space and variety at all times. Gemini is an air sign and also a mutable sign who can multitask, whereas Cancer focuses on one person, place or situation at a time. Cancer may mistake Gemini’s need for outside stimulation as a sign of sexual rejection and Gemini will get irritated by Cancer’s emotional showdowns and become agitated quickly. Gemini may flee and will pursue outside interests while Cancer will withdraw and become moody.
On the flipside, Gemini can banish Cancer blues while Cancer provides warmth and security to Gemini. Either way, this attraction is if anything, a very good learning experience for Cancer and an emotional experience for Gemini. That’s fine and well but down the line, problems can and will arise. One day, one of you could go to the store and never return. Don't be surprised, Gemini!
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Initially, a Gemini subject will probably be attracted to Cancer due to the stability and peace-loving nature, coupled with domestic tendencies. The compliments that a Cancer partner regularly delivers will be a large ego-booster to Gemini, who also appreciates the manner in which Cancer responds to his or her sense of humor and fun. If all goes well, then Gemini will learn from Cancer to be more sensitive to the feelings of others and Cancer will adopt the Gemini way of speedy action. Cancer natives are basically home-loving and will be content to remain there, locking the rest of the world outside. On the other hand, being a very sociable soul who enjoys the company of other people, Gemini would soon become restless and angry at such isolation. A Gemini individual has no desire to be a prisoner in his or her own home...indeed, such a life would be unbearable and intolerable. The actions of Cancer are always dicatated by feelings, no matter what the level of intelligence. Thus, there is likely to be much bickering due to the clash of this pair's personalities...a situation in which neither partner would want to remain for very long. Cancer natives also depend upon the feelings of the moment in terms of physical intimacy and those feelings can run very deep. Conversely, the desires of Gemini are dictated by the mind. This alone would undoubtedly create much confusion in the romantic arena since the same things cannot be expected to stimulate both partners and eventually, frustration in this area is probably inevitable.
Basically, the Gemini/Cancer love match is a rather curious affair. Those governed by Cancer have trouble in communicating clearly, but clear communication is what defines Gemini. Still the chivalrous nature and silver tongue of Gemini may encourage the Cancer individual to emerge from his or her shell more quickly than usual and in turn, Cancer can teach the Gemini native to slow down and appreciate the world...which the frenetic Gemini rarely takes time to do. However, if the Gemini partner seems to ignore Cancer or fails to provide Cancer with the necessary reassurance and intimacy, problems are sure to arise. These are two Signs who approach the world in very different fashions and each must be able to understand and accept the other's differences. Cancer is associated with home and hearth...Gemini is a thinker. On occasions, the Gemini partner can easily slip into the role of "knight in shining armor" to a Cancer individual, who returns the favor with a characteristic urge to protect loved ones. Quality of home life is of paramount importance to Cancer and the Gemini partner will undoubtedly be spoiled by the Cancer mate's hearty home cooking, soft bed and other creature comforts. It is natural for those ruled by Cancer to be strongly intuitive and maintain an almost psychic connection with those they love...but this can tend toward possessivenes and idealization. Nonetheless, if the Gemini partner can just reassure Cancer they he or she is loved and cherished, then all will probably go quite smoothly.
Gemini is ruled by the planet Mercury and Cancer is ruled by the Moon. Natives of Cancer are prone to keep their emotions bottled up since they have trouble in expressing themselves. Cancer individuals envy the gift of open and clear communication that comes so easily...courtesy of Mercury...to those governed by Gemini. Still, Gemini can benefit from Cancer's intuitive approach, which is so different from the bubbly suface nature of Gemini...and Cancer can teach Gemini how to slow down and appreciate life instead of passing up the good things in a rush to get to the next new thing. Gemini is governed by the element of Air while Cancer is governed by the element of Water. When Air and Water work together, it can produce a formidable team...after all, the best decisions are made by incorporating emotion and intellect. However, the problem lies in cooperation. These two Signs come from such opposite points of view that at times, it can seem as though they simply have nothing in common. The deep and emotional Cancer can also dampen Gemini's airy enthusiasm on occasion, while the light and fast-paced Gemini can leave Cancer feeling ruffled...even tattered. Here, the key to balance is learning to talk openly. Gemini is Mutable in quality and Cancer is Cardinal. Thus, Gemini is flexible, willing to "go with the flow" and follow another's lead. On the other hand, Cancer is an initiator and likes to provide that lead. Still, Gemini may try to lead by being brave and even confontational. In order to achieve longevity, each must learn when to back down and let the other lead the way. If this pair can come to the realization that they are allies, then they could soar to great heights together. Gemini is always thinking ahead and Cancer will quietly support Gemini's ideas from behind the scenes. Here, each partner's ability to provide what the other is lacking can make for a fulfilling relationship.
In essence, this combination may not be an easy one. While the Gemini native is constantly on the alert for change, the Cancer individual is satisfied to become a truly domesticated partner. In addition, the inherent Cancer moodiness may prove to be too much for the Gemini partner to cope with. The best chance for longevity here would probably be a relationship between a female Gemini and a Cancer male.
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Post by wildcat on Oct 13, 2007 16:38:14 GMT -5
Astrology Insight:
DWTS Early Favorites: Helio and Julianne
When Dancing with the Stars leaped to the top of the TV ratings in its premier week, Sabrina Ryan won the judges' favor, although she lost some points for putting too much hip-hop into her cha-cha. In week two, last year's winner Julianne Hough and her partner, Indy-500 winner Helio Castroneves, emerged as the most likely couple to capture the coveted crown.
Helio's Taurus Sun (May 10, 1975; Sao Paolo, Brazil; time unknown) is sextile to Mars in Pisces on one side and Saturn in Cancer on the other. This combination finds success through hard work and a consistent, reliable drive toward the goal. Mars in Pisces is traditionally associated with dancing, and with Helio's Mars conjunct Pallas, he can visualize and perform complex moves.
Julianne's Sun in Cancer (July 20, 1988; Provo, Utah; time unknown) is closely sextile Jupiter, and the two form a yod with her Saturn-Uranus conjunction in late Sagittarius. This combination has brought her supportive family connections, but with Uranus's disruptive influence, she left home at age ten to study dance in London. Her high-energy Mars in Aries squares graceful Neptune, a very favorable dance signature.
Julianne is the real celebrity in this team: her very close Sun-Uranus aspect sparkles with glitz and showmanship. Transiting Pluto will be conjunct her Saturn-Uranus and then quincunx her Sun over the coming weeks, a sure sign that she will rise to the top of the competition. Transiting Mars's long-term passage through early Cancer is favorably aligning with Helio's Venus and Julianne's Juno, ensuring that this couple has the chemistry to wow audiences.
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Post by linmiste on Oct 13, 2007 17:32:40 GMT -5
A Temple marriage is not taken lightly, not that any other type of marriage isn't, but its different. Most marriage ceremonies say "till death do we part" which is saying, our marriage ends after we die. But with a Temple marriage, we are married forever, will still be husband and wife after we die. So both the man and the woman have to really be ready for that kind of commitment. I'm not quite sure what you mean linmiste, when you said a Temple marriage is more based on the man's beliefs than the woman's. Because they both have to have the same faith, same beliefs to get married in the Temple, so yes they both need to be members. Its funny when Derek made that comment about his mom saw them as the blond Osmond family, because as you all probably know that the Osmonds, Marie and Donnie are Mormon. I know he said in the interview that it was because they all sang, danced and played musical instruments but was it also because they are Mormon too? I'm not sure we will ever know but I guess it doesn't really matter, none of my business. I don't know why I'm so curious about this subject. LisaM, you answered my question. I felt quite certain that a man couldn't be married there unless he was a church member, but I wasn't sure if the woman needs to be. But you answered that yes, she does, so that clarifies it. I didn't realize it was considered and eternal marriage. You'd definitely want the same beliefs then. Sometimes there are marriages of mixed faiths (I'm speaking generally, not specifically of Mormonism), but clearly a Temple marriage would not be one of them. Thanks for clarifying. I would guess that the reference to being blond Osmonds would extend to faith as well as singing in dancing. Just my take, though. |
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Post by butterfly on Oct 15, 2007 6:59:04 GMT -5
It's interesting to read everyone's insights about LDS and the Mormon faith. If Julianne is a truly devout Mormon, would she have called off something as serious as a temple marriage? Although I'm glad she called off the wedding before it happened instead of going through with it and then getting a divorce a couple years from now. Even though it's not really anyone's business why they called off the wedding, I am curious about it. Did Julianne (a) realize she is way too young to get married, (b) decide it just wasn't the right time to get married with her dancing and singing career taking off so quickly, (c) discover there are a lot of men out there in the world and wanted to explore her options, (d) all of the above, or (e) none of the above. On the other hand, maybe Zach called off the wedding because he believed all the gossip and thought that Julianne was in love with another man. Whatever the reason may be, I hope Julianne never lets her religion keep her from falling in love with the man of her dreams just beause he isn't Mormon...I'm sure they could work it out somehow. And I'm not just talking about Apolo here. Trust me, I haven't been an A/J shippper since I left that other site a few months ago.
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Post by Carrie on Oct 15, 2007 9:35:26 GMT -5
It's interesting to read everyone's insights about LDS and the Mormon faith. If Julianne is a truly devout Mormon, would she have called off something as serious as a temple marriage? Although I'm glad she called off the wedding before it happened instead of going through with it and then getting a divorce a couple years from now. Even though it's not really anyone's business why they called off the wedding, I am curious about it. Did Julianne (a) realize she is way too young to get married, (b) decide it just wasn't the right time to get married with her dancing and singing career taking off so quickly, (c) discover there are a lot of men out there in the world and wanted to explore her options, (d) all of the above, or (e) none of the above. On the other hand, maybe Zach called off the wedding because he believed all the gossip and thought that Julianne was in love with another man. Whatever the reason may be, I hope Julianne never lets her religion keep her from falling in love with the man of her dreams just beause he isn't Mormon...I'm sure they could work it out somehow. And I'm not just talking about Apolo here. Trust me, I haven't been an A/J shippper since I left that other site a few months ago. My instinct has been that Julianne called off the wedding because of these feelings for Apolo--not for Apolo directly, but your choice (c) above--her feelings for Apolo made her realize that there are other men out there and maybe she wasn't ready for such a big commitment as marriage. I've always felt that Julianne and Apolo felt a very strong attraction for each other during the show, but didn't act on it. Maybe a kiss at some point, followed by a "we really shouldn't do that" type of reaction. Julianne was engaged, and my gut instinct is that no matter how Apolo felt about her, he wouldn't disrespect her engagement. Perhaps as more time passes things will change, and they will decide to try a relationship together, but as time passes they could also realize that they were just in a really intense situation at the time. Julianne was dealing with questioning whether she was ready for marriage, Apolo was stepping way out of his comfort zone to be on the show and they were both dealing with the burning desire to excel on the show. Although I love the idea of a fairytale romance as much as anyone, I really think they did develop a deep friendship and each opened up a new world for the other. Hopefully Juliannes faith won't prevent her from exploring her new freedom, she certainly seems like a wonderful young woman. I also think it is a strong possibility that Zach called it all off--who wouldn't tire of the endless speculation, and Julianne had so many opportunities over the summer to state in interviews that she had a boyfriend and never did. Perhaps he got tired of waiting for her to make up her mind. I often wonder why I'm so fascinated by this topic? I know others are, too--perhaps it is just because they are so young and we saw them transform before our eyes on DWTS? |
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Post by number1fan on Oct 15, 2007 19:06:48 GMT -5
I've always felt that Julianne and Apolo felt a very strong attraction for each other during the show, but didn't act on it. Maybe a kiss at some point, followed by a "we really shouldn't do that" type of reaction. Julianne was engaged, and my gut instinct is that no matter how Apolo felt about her, he wouldn't disrespect her engagement. Perhaps as more time passes things will change, and they will decide to try a relationship together, but as time passes they could also realize that they were just in a really intense situation at the time. Julianne was dealing with questioning whether she was ready for marriage, Apolo was stepping way out of his comfort zone to be on the show and they were both dealing with the burning desire to excel on the show. Although I love the idea of a fairytale romance as much as anyone, I really think they did develop a deep friendship and each opened up a new world for the other.
a point where i feel apolo and julianne are both persuing their separate lives
and goals. they have a great base to start a solid relationship with, but i
believe the timing is still not right. i feel age, religion and family have a HUGE
impact on their decisions too. who knows, maybe in a couple of years, the
timing will be better and if it's meant to be, it will be. 
carrie...it's time for you to become a member here |
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Post by Lori on Oct 15, 2007 19:21:19 GMT -5
Re: Mark Ballas and reports of a 'young love' romance years ago with Julianne and rumors that he 'broke her heart'... ...does anybody know when serious negotiations started for the new pros for Season 5? Might it have coincidentally been around the time that Julianne broke off her engagement? A woman's memories of her 'first love' can be pretty powerful, ya' know, and maybe we're all missing the 'real' story... I dunno... just a thought... not that I care one way or the other... no harm in throwing out new talking points... just for fun... do I need to *duck*? BTW: Where was Marky born? He doesn't have a British accent... |
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