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Post by CrimsonAngel on Sept 17, 2006 13:23:32 GMT -5
I like that he's still so involved with short track. I don't know if that means he'll keep skating or not, but I don't think he can walk away from it completely. Well he never said he would. I mean we all want to see Apolo skate. But Apolo wants to see his sport grow. Now in this age, where media dominates everything, he is probably using the media and that field to draw attention to the world of Short Track or maybe US Speedskating in generel. Since they too will be indirectly affected by the increased attention and popularity of Short Track. As far as Yuki managing him. That makes total sense. Yuki knows Apolo better than anyone, in the sense of what is good and what is not good for his career. So many parents manages their high-profile, successful children. So more than you may think and realize. Really, it's not rocket science to become a manager, especially if you have been exposed to the business like Yuki has. I think he's been exposed enough to know what he is doing. |
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Post by Lindsey on Sept 17, 2006 21:35:56 GMT -5
Yay! Me is happy to see all this discussion! MANY MANY thanks to Laura for beginning this whole search! You're wonderful, Laura.
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Post by laura6 on Sept 17, 2006 21:44:34 GMT -5
Thanks...stalking skills come in handy sometimes....
Peggy wrote the most amazing letter for me....obvious reasons...
and we emailed it friday nite so we shall see...
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Post by tabatha on Sept 17, 2006 22:38:59 GMT -5
Well, you and Peggy both are good. ;D
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Post by epiphaniii on Sept 18, 2006 17:28:25 GMT -5
Thanks for all the great info Laura, Peggy and Billiey! He has, however, been forced to say “No, thanks,” because of ethical conflicts, time restraints and, as he put it, “just the language in some of the contracts.” For instance? It’s hard to go into detail, obviously,” he said, not wanting to bite an endorsement hand that might someday feed him. “But some of the stuff is funny.” Like? Meeting certain criteria about where he will train, and with whom. This quote is very interesting. I'd read (or heard) Apolo say some prospective sponsors wanted him to agree to some unacceptable terms but wasn't sure what he meant until now. I've also heard him say that he wants to make sure anything he becomes involved with allows him to "stay true to who I am as a person." So, it would seem that agreeing to what was written above would not fit into that plan. The nerve of some people/companies!  |
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Post by billiey36 guest on Sept 18, 2006 20:32:17 GMT -5
While I'm sure the money was a big consideration, I'm glad he turned down things that he had conflicts with. That may also be why he parted ways with Brillstein & Gray. They sure didn't handle the Kentucky Derby party to his satisfaction.
Ohnozone is reporting that J.P. Kepka and Caroline Hallisey, both short track skaters, got married this past weekend. It wouldn't surprise anyone if Apolo was there although no one is saying for sure yet.
Also, another short tracker, Mike Kooreman, got married the weekend before that, and according to OZ, Apolo and Allison were both members of the wedding party (along with Alex Izykowski).
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Post by tabatha on Sept 18, 2006 20:48:12 GMT -5
I bet Caroline made a beautiful bride.
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Post by Guest II on Sept 18, 2006 21:54:42 GMT -5
As far as Yuki managing him. That makes total sense. Yuki knows Apolo better than anyone, in the sense of what is good and what is not good for his career. So many parents manages their high-profile, successful children. So more than you may think and realize. Really, it's not rocket science to become a manager, especially if you have been exposed to the business like Yuki has. I think he's been exposed enough to know what he is doing. I dunno, I have to disagree. I know that there are a lot of parents that manage their children's careers, but I think it's always a bad idea to mix family and business, there's a lot of things that can go wrong. Look at all of the child stars gone bad - there often bad management by parents involved. Or Jessica Simpson's dad...it sometimes gets close to being creepy the way he endorses his daughters. Yuki knows short track, he knows the skaters, he knows the sport. But does he know how to manage? I know he has his own business, but it's another thing when you're representing someone. It's not rocket science, but it's not easy. I'd rather see Yuki out there supporting Apolo in the role of "Dad" than in the role of a manager, which could set them up for bad blood if things go wrong or if Yuki cuts a deal that Apolo doesn't want. |
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Post by billiey36 guest on Sept 19, 2006 0:28:21 GMT -5
Yuki couldn't cut any deal for Apolo without Apolo's approval. Apolo is an adult, and I think that's what would be different from the bad examples of managing you mentioned, Guest II. Those were cases of parents managing children's careers. Those often go bad when the child reaches adulthood and wants his or her own say. Parents find it hard to give that up.
Yuki hasn't made Apolo's decisions for him for a long time. I doubt if he'll be doing that now. But I'm sure he'll be in Apolo's corner, and that's what you want a manager to do, too.
An agency like Brillstein & Gray would be looking for the best way to make money off a client, even if the client doesn't like their proposals.
Who knows the best way to let Apolo stay true to himself better then Yuki?
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Post by billiey36 guest on Sept 19, 2006 10:13:22 GMT -5
Looking for news, any news. I was at Rusty Smith's site and checked out the articles there. This one is from 2002, but it is interesting. These guys have to be tough as nails. www.rustysmith.com/articles/article07.php |
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Post by billiey36 guest on Sept 19, 2006 10:23:29 GMT -5
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Post by tabatha on Sept 19, 2006 14:36:09 GMT -5
Great read billiey, thanks. Poor guys, tough, hell ya, to be going into the boards at that speed, yikes!  |
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Post by Guest II on Sept 19, 2006 17:18:26 GMT -5
Yuki couldn't cut any deal for Apolo without Apolo's approval. If he's Apolo's manager than he could..."Yeah, I'm Apolo's manager, he'd be HAPPY to do that hair expo for you! I can sign the papers right now, I'm his dad, afterall." Who knows the best way to let Apolo stay true to himself better then Yuki? Hmm...Apolo, maybe? Yes, Yuki IS Apolo's dad, but you have to remember that Apolo has spent the last decade of his life living away from his dad. Any of you that has a kid that's gone away to school knows that there are some things you know about your kid, and there's a LOT of things you don't. Articles paint Apolo and Yuki as extremely close, but I don't think they're as close as we're led to think. I think Yuki is a great father, always supporting his son and making a lot of sacrifices for him. However, as a manager, I think it's dangerous ground for their relationship. |
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Post by billiey36 guest on Sept 19, 2006 21:49:44 GMT -5
You can't sign a contract for an adult and commit them to something unless you have a power of attorney. There's no reason Apolo would give that to Yuki or anybody else. That's only used if you're incapacitated in some way, or are going to be out of the country for awhile and have some deals going that you want someone to finish for you. A manager looks for and brings you proposals, he doesn't make your decisions for you.
You're implying that Yuki doesn't know Apolo well enough anymore to do a good job managing, but does an agency like Brillstein & Gray know Apolo better? Apolo's own words lead me to believe that he and Yuki are closer now than they've ever been.
There are some bad examples out there of relatives not getting along when they work together, but you don't hear about all the times it does work out, which, from what I've seen, is more often than not.
I think Apolo has made it obvious that he trusts Yuki to do the job. He's the best judge of how close they are.
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Post by Bella on Sept 19, 2006 22:19:06 GMT -5
Guest II, playing devil's advocate or being sincere?
Hmmmmm....
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