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Post by Ruffian of Old on Jun 19, 2006 23:05:34 GMT -5
Is anyone else a twee bit frightened at the crazy rate with which Angelina is collecting/having children? WTF?
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Post by apolosangel8907 on Jun 19, 2006 23:11:59 GMT -5
I think she misunderstood the phrase "save the children" it doesn't mean adopt them ALL!!
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Post by Ruffian of Old on Jun 19, 2006 23:13:10 GMT -5
Someone needs to teach that girl about moderation.
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Post by susie on Jun 20, 2006 0:27:35 GMT -5
From what I've read, she wants one from every continent. Good luck on Antarctica.
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Post by Ruffian of Old on Jun 20, 2006 0:42:19 GMT -5
Why stop at one from every continent? How about one from every country!?! Or two? Or 17?!?!
It's just getting out of hand. We get it, Jolie. You're a good person. Well, except for that whole adultery thing, anyway.
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Post by susie on Jun 20, 2006 1:13:16 GMT -5
We get it, Jolie. You're a good person. Well, except for that whole adultery thing, anyway. Weirdly enough, I haven't held that against her. I just never bought Brad and Jen as a couple -- he always gave me the impression that he was settling for what he thought he could get, as opposed to what he wanted and needed...and that's a guy that shouldn't have to settle. |
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Post by MT on Jun 20, 2006 8:26:50 GMT -5
I've got no gripes at all against Angelina. She's just "broody" as they say in England and her hormones are making her want to wallow in motherhood. She can afford it and so long as she does a good job and the kids are happy, are you really going to complain that she is giving a few kids a better life?
As for Brad and Jen, given that he apparently fell out of love with Jen and in love with someone else, which is sad, I thought all three of them handled it with amazing dignity and Kudos to them. It's a real heartache but it happens and I don't know whether the moral high road is stay with the one you have made a commitment too even when everyone knows that's is not where your heart is or break your commitment. It is not a decision or a judgement I'm prepared to make against anyone but myself and my husband.
With Jolie, some people just aren't happy.
They say she "stole" Jennifer's chappy.
And the kids she adopts
Are just too large {and unAmerican) a crop
But who cares just so long as they're happy?
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Post by susie on Jun 20, 2006 12:26:25 GMT -5
I've got no gripes at all against Angelina. She's just "broody" as they say in England and her hormones are making her want to wallow in motherhood. She can afford it and so long as she does a good job and the kids are happy, are you really going to complain that she is giving a few kids a better life? It doesn't bother me either for the reasons you mention. Her adoptees are unquestionably better off than they would have been otherwise. As for Brad, IMO he was *never* in love with Jen (although he tried to persuade himself otherwise,) and that was the real problem. |
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Post by MT on Jun 20, 2006 12:39:46 GMT -5
I've got no gripes at all against Angelina. She's just "broody" as they say in England and her hormones are making her want to wallow in motherhood. She can afford it and so long as she does a good job and the kids are happy, are you really going to complain that she is giving a few kids a better life? It doesn't bother me either for the reasons you mention. Her adoptees are unquestionably better off than they would have been otherwise. As for Brad, IMO he was *never* in love with Jen (although he tried to persuade himself otherwise,) and that was the real problem. I know I was never in love with Jen. Why do you thnk he wasn't? I didn't pay much attention back then but it seems the press/fans liked to paint them as Hollywood's golden couple (Kinda like another couple that appears to maybe have been more hype than subastance.) Certainly it seems like he was serious about wanting to be a daddy, and for whatever reason (couldn't/wouldn't) Jen wasn't in mommy mode but Jolie was in mommy over-drive. I find it quite endearing that that seems to have appealed to Brad as much as her sex goddes looks. Esp after, what's his name, the last hubby, apparently wouldn't accommodate that aspect of her feminine nature. It's a pretty major problem when one half of a couple feels one way about kids and the other half is diametrically opposite. Kinda hard to compromise. Getting a dog doesn't cut it. |
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Post by susie on Jun 20, 2006 13:27:05 GMT -5
I know I was never in love with Jen. Why do you thnk he wasn't? I'm basing my opinion on various comments that both of them made over the years, all of which are escaping my memory right now. But there is an early picture of the two of them out on a date (the one where they are both leaning on a rail, looking at a nightclub type act below them)...and looking at his expression and body language...he has that "going to the dentist" look that just doesn't bode well. I'm not a fan of Jen but I don't think that she gets enough credit for having one of the best bodies in Hollywood -- nearly as good as Jessica Alba's. Her face is just average, IMO, but she has genius help with her makeup and hair -- they know how to make the best of what she's got. |
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Post by Ruffian of Old on Jun 20, 2006 15:22:17 GMT -5
Eh. Jen can take a long walk off a short pier. (BWAHAHA, I got that backwards at first)
Really? I'm the only who thinks this "I'm gonna collect kids like Mia Farrow?!" thing by Angelina is a tad disconcerting? I'd find it hard to believe that this new child charade she's got going isn't 30-50% for the reinforcement she gets for it.
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Post by MT on Jun 20, 2006 16:31:07 GMT -5
Eh. Jen can take a short walk off a long pier. Really? I'm the only who thinks this "I'm gonna collect kids like Mia Farrow?!" thing by Angelina is a tad disconcerting? I'd find it hard to believe that this new child charade she's got going isn't 30-50% for the reinforcement she gets for it. The part that makes it wierd is trying to picture yourself in her shoes. You'd have to be mad to make a lifetime commitment to raise somebody else's kids, esp multi-ethnic kids of undetermined inherited issues and esp if you aren't even sure if you want your own kid or like anybodies kids. (does that have the flavor of your reality to it?) The adopting kids for selfish reasons bit. You're right on. Of course she is. The big lie is, though they tell you never have kids for selfish reasons, nobody has them for any reason that isn't. The accidental pregnancy is the most selfish reason of all. I was too busy and self-absorded to take pre-cautions or to deny myself pleasure when getting preggers would be really unbearable. (OK, rape victims who deliver might be doing it for unselfish reasons or maybe they're frozen in shock and denial or constrained by moral issues etc.) What are the reasons for having a baby? Passing on genes, boredom, so he won't leave me, to get the in-laws off your back, because everyone does, because I want a doll to play with, because I don't want to be alone, because I want an excuse to display my boobs in public, because he'll marry me, because maternity close are stylish, cause all of Hollywood is doing it and the publicity is great, because I can eat all I want and gain weight, ..... Nope, couldn't think of a single common reason for having a baby that is for the sake of the kid and isn't inherently selfish. I''m OK with that because, if you're going to be doing something that traumatic to your body (just think about squeezing that volleyball thru that particular passage and the ripping and tearing, oh my!) and making a lifetime commitiment to a creature who may turn out to be a complete brat or physically/mentally handicapped, you had better be getting something out of it or it ain't gonna work. |
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Post by Ruffian of Old on Jun 20, 2006 17:29:09 GMT -5
What about the "My celebrity will totally grow if I spawn or pick up another kid and plus, people will forget about that insane marriage to Billy Bob Thornton or the fact that I possibly stole another woman's husband and then flaunted our relationship on the cover of W magazine!" reason?
Personally, everytime I see an interview with Jolie I'm left with a feeling of "This woman is totally sane and seems to have a good head on her shoulders...Why does she keep doing crazy ass things?!" I think that she enjoys attention and the kids are just another attention conduit for her. I'm not saying she doesn't love them or take care of them. But six? Good heavens, cool it Angelina.
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Post by torinogal on Jun 20, 2006 18:10:31 GMT -5
I dunno.  I guess I just see things differently than Angelina does. I know the kids she's adopted are better off now, but I've seen the children in foster homes, as well as the abandoned babies at hospitals-here in this country! If I ever decided I wanted to adopt, it would be an American orphan. I'd take only two of them at the most, probably just one child though. I just feel wrong taking care of other country's children, when the children who live on the wrong side of the tracks in my own hometown are starving. I give all my extras to the local food bank. Which isn't much, things aren't what they used to be when my parents were my age!  I'm from an affluent family, now I'm middle class even though I'm doing the same type of work! What happened?  Sorry, I'm off subject. I think 3 children is the MAX anyone should have in this overpopulated world! More is just ridiculous. But, if it makes her happy, I'm not going to b*tch at her about my difference of opinion. Even though I COMPLETELY disagree with her choices. |
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Post by apolosgal on Jun 20, 2006 20:32:30 GMT -5
I don't know but I think big families r nice. I mean don't go insane with like 15 kids or anything but 6 kids doesn't seem too bad to me.
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I guess I just see things differently than Angelina does. I know the kids she's adopted are better off now, but I've seen the children in foster homes, as well as the abandoned babies at hospitals-here in this country! 
