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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Nov 7, 2009 18:27:53 GMT -5
Women - 500M - Quarterfinals - ResultsHeat 1 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 3 GREGG Jessica CAN 44.567 Q 2 2 ZHAO Nannan CHN 44.573 Q3 4 MAU ASAM Liesbeth NED 44.697 4 1 FONTANA Arianna ITA 45.602 Heat 2 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 1 LIU Qiuhong CHN 43.717 Q 2 2 ROBERGE Kalyna CAN 43.820 Q 3 4 PIERRON Veronique FRA 44.860 4 3 CHO Ha-Ri KOR 45.235 5 5 LINDSAY Sarah GBR 45.429 Heat 3 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 1 REUTTER Katherine USA 44.859 Q 2 4 HUSZAR Erika HUN 44.955 Q3 3 BORODULINA Tatiana AUS 44.986 DNF 2 VAN DOORN Annita NED DNF Heat 4 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 1 WANG Meng CHN 43.826 Q 2 3 PARK Seung-Hi KOR 44.840 Q3 5 MALISZEWSKA Patrycja POL 48.435 4 4 KLEIN Aika GER 1:00.145 5 2 ST-GELAIS Marianne CAN 1:07.366 - - - - - - Tony said: "Reutter click blades and fell. Took down Borodulina as well. No DQ for Van Doorn. Got a DNF. Equipment issues." "St. Gelais fell and took out the other skaters at the start. No restart."
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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Nov 7, 2009 18:33:41 GMT -5
Men - 500M - Quarterfinals - ResultsHeat 1 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 1 HAN Jialiang CHN 42.112 Q 2 2 CHO Simon USA 43.217 Q 3 3 SUNG Si-Bak KOR 1:29.644 DQ 4 KNEGT Sjinkie NED DQ Heat 2 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 1 SIMON Jeff USA 42.133 Q 2 2 JEAN Olivier CAN 42.526 Q 3 4 KOZULIN Evgeny RUS 43.020 DQ 3 LEE Seung-Jae KOR DQ Heat 3 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 1 HAMELIN Charles CAN 41.582 Q 2 3 ELEY Jon GBR 41.836 Q3 2 WANG Hong Yang CHN 42.079 4 4 FUJIMOTO Takahiro JPN 42.200 Heat 4 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 1 TREMBLAY Francois-Louis CAN 41.836 Q 2 2 OHNO Apolo Anton USA 41.929 Q 3 3 CONFORTOLA Yuri ITA 41.997 4 4 GYSEL Pieter BEL 42.040 - - - - - - Tony said: "Sung Si-Bak fell after a lap! Simon Cho and Kengt make contact! Looked like Si-Bak slipped. Knegt DQ for impeding." "Lee Seung-Jae DQ for impeding."
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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Nov 7, 2009 18:37:16 GMT -5
Men - 500M - Semifinals - ResultsHeat 1 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 2 WANG Meng CHN 43.728 QA 2 1 ROBERGE Kalyna CAN 43.927 QA 3 3 REUTTER Katherine USA 44.358 QB 4 4 HUSZAR Erika HUN 44.864 QBHeat 2 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 3 ZHAO Nannan CHN 44.324 QA 2 4 PARK Seung-Hi KOR 44.689 QA3 1 LIU Qiuhong CHN 1:18.339 ADVDQ 2 GREGG Jessica CAN DQ - - - - - - Tony said: "Reutter did not make it out. For some reason she couldn't keep up." "Liu Qiuhong fell exiting the final turn and slammed into the pads." "Head ref reviewing that last Women's semifinal." "Jessica Gregg DQ for impeding. Zhao and Park advance. Liu Qiuhong goes to B Final."
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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Nov 7, 2009 18:41:27 GMT -5
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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Nov 7, 2009 18:42:56 GMT -5
Women - 500M - Final B - ResultsHeat 1 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 1 REUTTER Katherine USA 45.099 2 2 HUSZAR Erika HUN 45.352
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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Nov 7, 2009 18:44:29 GMT -5
Women - 500M - Final A - ResultsHeat 1 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 1 WANG Meng CHN 44.124 GOLD 2 2 ROBERGE Kalyna CAN 44.183 SILVER 3 3 ZHAO Nannan CHN 44.251 BRONZE4 4 PARK Seung-Hi KOR 44.398 5 5 LIU Qiuhong CHN 44.418
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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Nov 7, 2009 18:46:17 GMT -5
Men - 500M - Final B - ResultsHeat 1 [Splits] Place Start Pos. Name ISU Member Results Qual. 1 1 HAN Jialiang CHN 42.439 2 2 CHO Simon USA 42.657 3 4 ELEY Jon GBR 42.677 4 3 JEAN Olivier CAN 42.977 - - - - - - Tony said: "Simon Cho had some trouble as he exited the last corner spun around so fast."
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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Nov 7, 2009 18:48:43 GMT -5
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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Nov 7, 2009 18:52:04 GMT -5
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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Nov 7, 2009 19:06:02 GMT -5
Media Round-up: Source: sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/more/11/07/short.track.skate.ap/index.htmlReutter wins women's 1,500; Ohno loses in semisMONTREAL (AP) -- Katherine Reutter of the United States won the women's 1,500 meters at the short track speedskating World Cup event on Saturday, and U.S. star Apolo Anton Ohno took second in the men's 500.Charles Hamelin of Canada held off Ohno to win the 500 in 41.576 seconds. Ohno finished in 41.807 and fellow American Jeff Simon was third in 41.870. Earlier, Hamelin won the 1,500, finishing in 2 minutes, 19.220 to edge Si-Bak Sung of South Korea by 0.001 of a second. Travis Jayner of the United States placed third in 2:19.560. Ohno failed to qualify for the 1,500 final after placing fourth in his semifinal heat. Only the top two skaters advance. Reutter finished in 2:23.275 seconds to beat Ha-Ri Cho of South Korea. Cho crossed in 2:23.349 and Liu Qiuhong of China was third in 2:23.371. Wang Meng of China won the women's 500 ahead of Kalyna Roberge of Canada. Zhao Nannan of China was third. The skaters are working to secure spots in Olympic competition this February in Vancouver. The results from this week will be combined with rankings next weekend in Marquette, Mich. - - - - - - Source: www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5ij_vgocTRxRkta9qu5C6n45BBwswSkater Charles Hamelin wins gold medal in the 1,500 and 500 metres at World CupBy Jennifer Ditchburn (CP) – 1 hour ago MONTREAL — Canadian Charles Hamelin took two gold medals at the short-track speedskating World Cup on Saturday, winning both the 1,500 and the 500 metres.In the 1,500 metres, he won by a thousandth of a second over South Korean Sung Si-Bak. In the 500 metres, he held off American star Apolo Anton Ohno who was at his shoulder the entire race. Teammate Francois-Louis Tremblay came in fourth in the 500 metres. Kalyna Roberge won the silver in the women's 500 metres, hot on the heels of Chinese skater Wang Meng, the world-record holder. They were welcome victories after a rollercoaster of an afternoon for the Canadians, who faced several disappointments. Hamelin, from Levis, Que., pumped his arm in the air to the cheers of an enthusiastic crowd at the Maurice Richard Arena. For the second time at the meet, Olivier Jean of Lachenaie, Que., was disqualified for impeding another skater. This time, in the semifinals of the 1,500, Jean tangled with American Jeff Simon. On Friday, he was disqualified in the 1,000 for blocking a German skater.
Jean did not hide his frustration, saying he had spent the evening before relaxing with friends and family to be mentally ready for Saturday's action.
"I was doing a great race, and I was following the match plan, trying to be close to the front, and with five laps to go I was in front, but I kind of misread the speed I was going," Jean said. "I thought I was going fast enough but I was going too slow and two skaters passed me and that put me in a difficult position and I had to catch up and do some passes that lead to the mistake."Jean did not place in the finals of the 500 later in the day. Jessica Gregg of Edmonton was also disqualified for impeding in the women's 500 semifinals. In the women's 1,500 semifinals, Valerie Maltais of La Baie, Que., was sent skidding across the ice to the boards after she was bumped by American Allison Baver. Baver was disqualified, but Maltais did not secure a spot in the finals.Roberge, of St-Etienne de Lauzon, Que., also faced disappointment in her 1,500 heat, missing her spot in the final by only two-tenths of a second in a third-place finish that had to be verified by officials. The women's 1,500 final proceeded without a Canadian in the race. American Katherine Reutter edged out her main South Korean rival Cho Ha-Ri in the competition. The athletes are working to secure spots in Olympic competition this February in Vancouver. The results from this week will be combined with rankings next weekend in Marquette, Mich. Although the Canadians have had a number of ups and downs at this World Cup, they are still expected to come out with a respectable ranking that will ensure them the maximum of three berths in each distance at the Games. Canada automatically gets one spot in each distance, as well as a team in the relay races.
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Post by musicalmom on Nov 7, 2009 19:56:35 GMT -5
After watching the TV coverage this afternoon, I was a bit disappointed that it was pretty weighted toward Canadian coverage..didn't even show the finals of the women's 1500 where Katherine won although they did give her pretty good film coverage...lots of closeups off the ice....I understand that CBC is Canadian and wanting to feature Can. skaters, but just as the U.S. did in the last summer Olys, I think the nationalism was overdone. That said, I'm grateful to have seen any coverage live on the day of the event. I was most impressed with Jeff and Apolo...after each of their final races they congratulated the winner just after they crossed the finish line. Such sportsmanship is awesome and so great for their young skater admirers. Saw some of our boarders quickly...camera closeup with them waving flag just before Katherine's B final 500 and another closeup just before the men's 500 final. Where are our GA women sitting? Couldn't tell from the closeup...let us know so we can watch tomorrow...what advertising sign are you across from? where in relation to the hot box? Didn't look like the stands were full today. I'm not thrilled with the new uniforms, but at least you can pick them out from the pack... Simon Cho did an amazing spin around and then fall after the finish line...yet still placed.. I"m recalling a similar event at the Canadian qualifying when an Alberta skater crossed first but fell after and was disqualified in favor of another Quebec skater....glad for Cho but curious about the rule...they said he wasn't in control when he crossed the line..? Maybe Tony knows the difference... Anyway, BRAVO to the U.S. and Canada for their amazing skating...and I'm sure we'll see even more at the Oly's...think they're keeping some strategies until then... Apolo looked so calm and in control in the races I saw....always amazing to watch him...and Jeff and Katherine were pretty in control too...can't wait til tomorrow, but I think they're only broadcasting the 1000 men's and women's....D!!! I want to see the relays!!!! However, am thankful for any coverage at all. Bravo to Charles Hamelin and Kalyna Roberge for some exciting skating. They both looked very focused and in control. Olivier Jean had a rough day. But then there have been lots of DQ's so far..may mean refs are on their game.... Thanks to everyone who has posted and particularly to BBB who is always here for us! See you tomorrow.
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Post by Apolo_USA on Nov 8, 2009 14:36:26 GMT -5
I don't mean to be negative but what has happened to our team? Yes, we did well in the 500 yesterday, but we have a lot of them (Apolo included) not even making it past SEMIs. Yes, let's support them or whatever, but I'm kind of getting tired of the constant excuses: "Oh, well these WCs were too early in the season and we haven't peaked yet.." ....Well, the Koreans and the Canadians found a way to manage. "The ice is bad."......Again, the other countries found a way to win. "Equpitment issues" .....Seriously? We've heard that for 2 years now. tdavis posted in the last WC thread that we need to do SOMETHING to get better because it's obvious we're not close to the level that the Koreans (or even the Canadians) are on. I completely agree with that, and I agree with what they said about adopting the training levels of Koreans We should not have to sit back and bow down to the Koreans constantly and accept that they're just going to be number one no matter what. We need to DO SOMETHING about it. It just seems kind of dumb to me...the coaches know how good the Koreans are, know how hard they train...and yet they continue to hold less intensive practices. I doubt the Korean team excuses their skaters for weeks at a time to do interviews: they skate almost every day, fr long hours. I just wish we had the same dedication of training and coaches the Koreans had because I'm tired of being "Number 3" to them. Yes, we had one good year with a world champion and a World team champ, but it seems we've actually regressed from then. PLease don't write me off as being horribly negative...I just wish they'd stop making excuses for when they don't win. It's obvious that the Koreans train much harder, but no one ever addresses that; just constant excuses. korea has their number ONE guy out and they're still kicking ass. I'm tired of praising korea...lets go out, do something about it, and WIN! "If you ain't first you're last!"-Ricky Bobby
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Post by Apolo_USA on Nov 8, 2009 14:59:29 GMT -5
And right after I type this Ohno finishes 4th...
Not trying to be mean, again, but seriously try to answer this question with no bias: Is it time for Aao to hang up the skates?
Obviously he's not going to do it right before the Olympics, but it just seems like it definitely could have been his time after Torino. It will suck if he continues these performances in Vancouver and doesn't go out on top.
But seeing these results from not just this year, but also last year, makes me think a definite YES. It seems he can't even keep up with Canadians anymore, let alone the newer (less experienced) Koreans. I think he's just straight up slower. He looks a lot "older" when you see video of him as well.
Tony's twitter: "The Koreans are just so d**n powerful!...."
THIS is exactly what I am tired of hearing. The USA boys need to suck it up and start winning some stuff.
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Post by evie5 on Nov 8, 2009 16:55:58 GMT -5
Even my favorite basketball and football teams do not always win. They train very hard and yet they don't always play perfect (and sometimes down right awful). However, they are still my favorites and I love them tremendously. Just because they don't always play and/or win as I would want I will NOT discount the amount of time and effort they put into the sport and into their training. I am VERY proud of Team USA and what they have done. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by tdav on Nov 8, 2009 18:57:07 GMT -5
We finished 4th in the relay!? I agree with some of your comments, Apolo_USA. Some of this is just freaking ridiculous. I'm sorry but believing and supporting them isn't going to help us get medals in Vancouver. This relay stuff is just...crap! It's like Ahn and Lee's absence doesn't even matter because our result is still the same. China is better than us! Its's like we swapped places with them! And I'm sorry but I'm not proud of 4th. They HAVE to change something before Vancouver because something isn't clicking. We finished 12 seconds off the third place finisher? I truly believed that we would actually be able to fight for the gold but now that is not looking possible. JR's injury was just disastrous for our team; it's like he's carrying the team now. And as far as their training, I will not allow myself to believe that they train as hard as the Koreans. AND WE HAVE A KOREAN COACH THAT COACHED Ahn Hyun-soo, Lee Ho-suk, Song Kyung-taek, and Lee Seung-hoon! World Cup ClassificationValid 11/08/09~11/12/09
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