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Post by Lori on Mar 31, 2009 2:01:00 GMT -5
I heard that Halie retired - just word-of-mouth, nothing official, so I'm not positive.  (But the fact that she hasn't skated in sooooo long kind'a gives 'legs' to it.) She did skate at US Championships last season - Dec '07 (came in a respectable 7th), but hasn't competed since... |
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Post by Mars on Mar 31, 2009 11:58:27 GMT -5
Wow, I was starting to wonder about Halie. Thanks, Lori  |
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Post by gasp on Mar 31, 2009 12:20:20 GMT -5
After much research via reading, emails and phone calls this is what I understand about the Olympic Trials. Note: I'm using names as examples only from the current season. I am in no way implying who will make the team and who will not.
JR has to do OT's just like everyone else; what he does have - along with Apolo, Katherine, and Kimberly - is a medical bye due to being a medal contender. A medal contender has to have won 3 world medals in one distance the world cup season before OT's to receive a medical bye. If one of them gets injured and can't compete in OT's then when they are able to get back on the ice they are allowed to time trial the 5th ranked person on the team, the 5th spot then going to whoever wins the time trial.
As soon as I can get back to it, I'll post the rule.
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Post by sk8er on Mar 31, 2009 19:20:04 GMT -5
Thanks BBB and Gasp. Excellent explanations. What a tragedy for Alison! I don't need to tell you that if that girl makes it to Marquette I'm yelling louder for her than Apolo!
SusanG
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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Apr 1, 2009 2:39:28 GMT -5
After much research via reading, emails and phone calls this is what I understand about the Olympic Trials. Note: I'm using names as examples only from the current season. I am in no way implying who will make the team and who will not. JR has to do OT's just like everyone else; what he does have - along with Apolo, Katherine, and Kimberly - is a medical bye due to being a medal contender. A medal contender has to have won 3 world medals in one distance the world cup season before OT's to receive a medical bye. If one of them gets injured and can't compete in OT's then when they are able to get back on the ice they are allowed to time trial the 5th ranked person on the team, the 5th spot then going to whoever wins the time trial. As soon as I can get back to it, I'll post the rule. i remember the rule - i just think a part of my brain refused to deal with it cause it's in denial that things like that can/will happen. lol. but i should remember 'that's short track!' :] |
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Post by sk8er on Apr 6, 2009 10:24:00 GMT -5
Some of our young guys are training SLC with the development team program. I can't remember exactly what the program is called. Here's what I heard this weekend: the rule was that if you finish in the top three at Worlds two years in a row the two years before the Olympics you get a bye onto the Olympic Team. JR is just stronger and faster than anyone out there I guess.
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Post by gasp on Apr 6, 2009 17:49:26 GMT -5
Derek Parra runs the "Whip" program. Is that what you are referring to, sk8r?
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Post by sk8er on Apr 6, 2009 18:27:45 GMT -5
 I don't think so. It started out under the leadership of Mike Kooreman but they got a new coach a few months ago. A Korean I think....they seem to be an export commodity. 0_0 SusanG
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Post by mtnme on Apr 6, 2009 21:03:31 GMT -5
I don't think so. It started out under the leadership of Mike Kooreman but they got a new coach a few months ago. A Korean I think....they seem to be an export commodity. 0_0 SusanG It sounds like the Wasatch club that our buddy Anthony Barthell skates with.  |
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Post by skaterswaltz on Apr 10, 2009 1:29:17 GMT -5
FIVE MONTHS AND COUNTING! (No, I'm not excited or anything)
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Post by A.O.Freak on Apr 25, 2009 9:49:51 GMT -5
has anyone booked their trip yet for the Olympic Trials??
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Post by tdav on Jun 12, 2009 0:40:57 GMT -5
Okay, I'm sooooooooo confused. Can someone clearly, in one post, explain the Olympic qualification process? Preferrably someone who is 100% sure. LOL
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Post by justsayin on Jun 12, 2009 20:46:19 GMT -5
Well, tdav, I've read through the USOC rules about 4 times now and I don't know how anyone can be 100% sure on them....LOL they are very complex but here is what I understand from reading them: 1. At the Oly Trials in Marquette, there are points awarded (by place) for the 4 lap time trial, the 9 lap time trials and each of the 6 distance races. At Oly trials there are two races at each distance...500, 1000, and 1500. 2. At the end of the meet, spots on the US World Cup Team are awarded. One spot for the overall point leader at each distance and one spot for the Overall points leader in the meet. The fifth spot goes to the skater who has finished second in one of the distance races and has more points than the other second place finishers. If the Overall leader has already earned a slot by being the point leader in one of the distance races, two slots are filled by second place skaters. Being second in the Overall points category doesn't seem to get you anything!!  with me so far??  These five skaters (well, 10 actually, 5 guys, 5girls) now participate in the World Cup Races. World Cup 3 and World Cup 4 results determine how many skaters of each gender any country can send to the Olympics. Points are accumulated through these two events and by point standing, each country is awarded spots in the Olympic competition in each distance and for the relay. If the US qualifies in all three distances and the relay, they will have 5 skaters in the Olympics. If they don't qualify for the relay, they can only send 3 skaters. This is why WC3 and WC4 are so important.  If the US earns the 5 slots for the Team, those slots are awarded as I described above for the Oly Trials. The only thing that is still unclear to me after reading many times, is whether they use each skaters point totals for the Trials and WC3 and WC4 or only the Trials points. I'm not sure if it makes a difference since only the 5 skaters are going to accumulate WC points anyway. Clear as mud, huh??  Sorry if this is more confusing than helpful but I can't think of any simpler way to explain. The USOC rules are real mind benders. |
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Post by tdav on Jun 12, 2009 22:36:45 GMT -5
Can you give some examples? Like an example of each scenario you described. I'm going to need examples no matter what. Haha.
This is harder to unerstand than calculus 2! LOL It's like you need to be an official to understand this stuff! And I though gymnastics judging was confusing!
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Post by sk8on on Jun 14, 2009 11:04:54 GMT -5
...and I'm about to complicate it and confuse us even more (tdavis, look away--LOL). I was under the impression that the 5 skaters per country was practically a given (we have to qualify in the top 8. Four of the five skate the relay and the other is an an alternate). What I believe is mostly in question until after WC 3 and 4 is how many of the five can skate individual races at each distance in the Olympics. Each country is allowed the maximum of three skaters per individual distance (if they qualify 3 that is)  ETA: 6 not 5 will make the team (2 alternates). The top 5 will be decided during the Olympic Trials and the 6th spot at the WCs, correct? I think I need to re-read the official qualification procedures for the hundredth time...
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