One More Time for the Cheap Seats.

[Ruffian of Old]

You guys! I didn't see the vote thread. Way to be three steps ahead of me, lol.

*votes*

[Bella]

OK. I'm ready to respond now (less emotional after a night of rest). To understand my reaction, Ruffian and everyone else, you all need to understand what lead to it, so I hope you will indulge me a little here.

I did not want to be a moderator. The first time I was asked, I said no. Then Lindsey asked me again and I reconsidered for her sake, to help her out. I agreed to do it only temporarily until she got done traveling this summer. I told her I really enjoyed just posting and I couldn't spend any more time than I was already spending. I was mildly worried about having to restrain myself a bit, but I figured I could handle it temporarily and that people would understand... Naive of me perhaps.

Well, do you know how many times I've had to restrain myself in the last week! It's downright tragic! I've had to bite my tongue so much it's swollen! How envious I have been of you, Ruffian and MT and the others with your saucy little remarks and your devil may care attitudes! How jealous I was to watch you bring sweet, demur little elle out of her pink perfumed corner and into the brazen smutty light of day (still waters run deep). I wanna get poked by a Canookian too, d**nit! Even if it is only in words on screen (by the way, "Golden Rod: the Olympic Wet Dream").

And I was so glad that folks were not yammering on about Allison. Allison, Allison, Allison (ala Jan Brady)!

But I exercised restraint because I promised Lindsey I would be a good and responsible little moderator and always try to consider the needs and feelings of all posters, not just the tart party-ers (however much fun they may be!).

And I don't know if you've noticed, but since the tart party began, the younger posters have started to fall out a bit. I think they just don't know how to respond, especially when it's off topic.

As a result, I have been feeling very torn over the whole thing. How do I properly moderate things so that the younger set is not alienated, the older set gets a little leeway and I get the admiration (or at least the tolerance) of everyone without having to restrain myself too much. You can see my dilemma.

I emailed Lindsey about my trepidation to ask for guidance, since it is still her board, but I have not received a response.

That takes me to yesterday. After dashing off a few posts in the morning, I had an amazing day with my 4 year old. We went out to lunch, he used his napkin, ate all his food without complaining, and told me I looked pretty. Then we went to the park where he shared his toys with the other kids, and then to the library, where he let me pick some of the books to read to him. We came back home and made lego cars and airplanes, watched his favorite monster truck video and he went to bed early without complaint. My husband came home from work just after I put my son to bed with a huge bouquet of flowers (for no particular reason) next I checked the board one last time before bed and there was Ruffian’s post - like a dagger.

A) Ruffian, I was so hurt to find that you were trashing me to other posters in PMs. Why didn’t you just come to me directly? I should have let you in on my perspective sooner so you would have understood the shift in my posting. I mean, you and I and a handful of others who have been around since the beginning are sorta like the rat pack, you know? If I didn’t actually like you so much, I probably would have just been mad instead of hurt. Your sincere responses and apologies have soothed me and confirmed my belief that you are totally worth all the time I’ve spent getting to know you in the past couple of months.

B) I’m sorry if my attempts at diplomacy came across as passive aggressive. I’m not covertly hostile to you, Ruffian or any one else. I got nothin’ but love for ya. (And you totally crack me up! You should be a stand-up comic!) If I seemed to single you out, it's probably because I view you as an ally and I was trying to drum up support.

C) Until Lindsey gets back from her travels I gotta continue to be a moderator and with Nerka offline most of the time, that leaves just me. Having overnight to process all this, I realized that it’s actually not the R-rated talk that’s the problem, it’s the off-topicness of it. A few posts off topic is fine, but if the sidetrack is something people want to discuss in depth, I say just make a new thread and post that you’re moving things to the “Playful Grown-Up Banter about …” thread. I don’t want to see it all go to PMs 'cause a) what would be the point of talking on a group board if you always have to PM your spontaneous responses? and b) I don’t want to miss out on the action.

In closing, I’d just like to say, Ruffian, that your immortal remark about the back porch door provided some vivid imagery for my sexual exploit yesterday evening, and for that my libidinous little online friend, I am immensely and exceedingly grateful. (giggle)

P.S. While we are getting things out in the open, I must reveal that I told a bit of a fib in an earlier post on the random question thread. I have, contrary to what I wrote, actual mooned someone… or rather, many “someones” all at once… in real life… from the back window of a moving bus… and I was not intoxicated at the time…

Ahhhh. sweet relief….

The vote is a good idea for feedback. I’ll post my vote this afternoon.

Chao for now, and thanks for indulging me.

**Bella blowing kisses**

[Ruffian of Old]

First off, before any of us can tred any further, on thing must be said:

I wanna get poked by a Canookian too, d**nit!

I'm printing up 1000 shirts with this logo and passing them out to everyone I see. For this is the best thing I have ever seen.

Now, let's get down to the business of getting down...Or something, lol.

Bella, I'm so relieved you responded! I do apologize and I know I should've just said it here instead of PMs. Sometimes I'm still 13 and act catty. I won't do it again, promise! I really didn't know you were upset about having to censor yourself and I felt like you might be going the way of Rose and becoming a MOD instead of a regular poster. I, of course, didn't want that because we need ya Bella! You bring a sort of class to our smut that I think we all appreciate (except for that canookian comment That was no class, all sass).

Basically, long story short, mea culpa. Buds?

I didn't make the post originally because I had already made one and it went nowhere. If I hadn't been so dangerously liquored up last night I probably wouldn't have made it all. I feel better now, tho. I see I'm not the only one who feels the way I do.

As far as the younger posters, I don't want to offend them. I don't want to offend anybody. The thought that my tartiness might be creeping some young kid out kind of nauseates me. So, if some lurkers or posters were freaked out by me or any line of tartiness I may have started, my bad.

And as far as the back porch door comment (I originally typed that out as "back door comment" and then realized that without "porch" it takes on a whole new meaning ), I'm happy to serve.

Seriously, Canadians...I'm happy to serve.

Because it just can't be stressed enough:

I wanna get poked by a Canookian too, d**nit!

*printing shirts*

[californiagrown]

Bella i feel for ya babe ur post made me sad that u had to restrain urself and be the grown up , also i lurved ur porn title

two i feel that not a seperate forum or board is necesary like someone else already said ( i forgot who please forgive me) i think it should just be like where the whole gerneral board, picture, vedio thing is there should be the raunchy stuff

im not 18 but i would sure as hell go! anywho thats my voice latas must study for finals **forces eyes to read notes**

[californiagrown]

o and one more thing bella ur long response was written so beautifuly! honestly u need to be a writer ;D

[guest]

ruffian86 said:

Bella.

I'm so, so sorry.

I just wanted to come clean. I just said what I said here. How I frustrated and how I thought you changed. I wish I had done this in the first place. I'm really, really sorry and hope you can forgive me because I love almost every contribution to this board (guest, I stand by my "YOU SUCK" statement) and yours is most valued.

Gah. I shouldn't post when I'm like this.

Should I care?

[MT]

ruffian86 said:

I just wanna say one thing.

Bella, you were pretty cool once. You got in the fray with the rest of us and got all muddy. But now I see you hanging back, posting less frequently and using a lot of your posts to reprimand (usually in a passive aggressive tone that makes me want to hit something). I realize you're a mod but...Dammit no one liked the fcuking hall monitor as a kid and no one likes them now. Quit being bad cop. I've said this behind your back in PMs and feel like a sh!t for doing it so I've decided to just get it all out in the open and let you know. I like you, I think you're funny and neat and all that good stuff. But this mod position is ruining you as a poster just like it ruined Rose.

I see a lot of adults on this board. I've only seen Jay (or somebody, I don't remember) complain about the porn titles. Which by the way, was silly. Are you telling me you can't take sexual ennuendos?

My point is, I made a post like this before when Rose was getting all up-in-my-face moddy and it's happening again so I'm doing it again. Quit getting up in my grill. I think it's entertaining to share ideas/thoughts that border on a sexual nature and I want to keep doing it. It's fun. We're horny and we don't want to talk about his fcuking hair anymore. How about how sweet his a$$ (and take the censors off, FFS. I can't say a$$? Come the fcuk on.) is and what it would be like to kiss him and fondle his giblets? Dammit, let's make it good.

When we keep things PG this board dies. Fact. Just limps along until Krysten comes in to reply to every single thread with "LOL, j/k, j/k haha" (that's so annoying, by the way). But when the adult women get together to joke this sh!t bubbles and spits like a grease fire. Is that so wrong?

Can we have our own adult board and can I mod it? Please?

This probably sounds really angry but I'm not. I love this board. I love talking to the people on it. I was actually hanging out with members of my family today who I haven't seen in 10 years and thought to myself, "God, I'm bored...I wonder if anybody's on the apolo board. How soon can I leave this hell?" Plus I'm drunk (a little. I had to hang out with pseudo-family-strangers all day so for god's sake don't judge me.) and feeling expressive so this is what came of it.

Here goes nothin'

*Post Message*

I just wanna say Ruffian has out kinked me. Hanging out with relatives I haven't seen in 10 years is like the anti-turn on for me. Maybe we could switch relatives?

Bella, from my perspective, you've been doing pretty d**n good given all the recent provocative provocation and I feel you squirming so I just wanna give you some credit for not exploding or anything too unpleasant.

I do agree with Ruffian in that, from my own, admittedly perv-tolerant perspective, no one has gone too far (which is to say, farther than Ruffian and I have sassily gone). I also have to second Ruffian's sentiment: I wanna play with Apolo's giblets too. But if the convo starts getting more graphic and less amusing than that bald yet eloquent statement, say, involving bodily fluids, than we've pegged my gross out meter and I'll go play catch with the kids or somethin and wash my eyes out with soap.

[MT]

ckt said:

even if you aren't 18 yet, the type of people that spend hours on a board about a hot guy are typically the type to explore online porn as well.... so it's not like we are corrupting them. talking about it is much milder than seeing it. So as long as we are not photoshopping apolo and ron jeremy together, I see no issues.

...but I'm kind of new.

...p.s. though, I never stick with boards, but I have so far with this one b/c we got a bit racy. It's fun.

Who is ron jeremy? I thought Apolo wasn't in a relationship? Oh, are they just dating?

[MT]

jay said:

it's not about i don't like you girls talking about porns and stuff....it's that how a thread like "Apolo's Interview In Seattle Times" can turn to porns....i don't get it.....if you want to talk about porn, you can....just make a porn thread and you girls can talk about it without nuisance....i won't go to the thread coz i'm not interesting.....i don't get it coz how you can go that far from interview to porn stuff.....it's unacceptable....

(i'm sorry if i'd broke someone's heart....i didn't mean it....just sayong what's in my heart)

I haven't seen any porn anywhere on this site and don't expect ever too. Even Velma's site isn't "porn." Lusty thoughts aren't, by definition, porn. We've been having good clean fun making sexual ennuendos. I begin to get that you don't like it, but I don't get that it is unacceptable. He's over 18 (the Canadians too) I'm over 18 and I'm typing with a condoms on my fingers

If you don't understand how a perfectly innocuous conversation about an athlete who runs around in a painted on outift that reveals all and he is gorgewous to boot can turn to sexual silliness you are wound way too tight and need to break out of that chastity belt a bit and let your hormones find some kinda healthy outlet. I'm not for a moment suggesting you must enjoy the raunchy posts or read them. Some people are just more classy than I and maybe we just need to find a way that doesn't rub those peoples noses in "unacceptable" lusty posts while still allowing consenting adults to practive free and healthy speech. Like maybe we can post the titilating blurbs in pink?

[californiagrown]

well MT jay is from mylasio or something i cant spell it its a land far far away in Asia and i think their custums r different than our americannessishtic custems

[MT]

ruffian86 said:

First off, before any of us can tred any further, on thing must be said:

I wanna get poked by a Canookian too, d**nit!

I'm printing up 1000 shirts with this logo and passing them out to everyone I see. For this is the best thing I have ever seen.

Because it just can't be stressed enough:

I wanna get poked by a Canookian too, d**nit!

*printing shirts*

Size medium, with maple leafs please.

[MT]

californiagrown said:

well MT jay is from mylasio or something i cant spell it its a land far far away in Asia and i think their custums r different than our americannessishtic custems

cool. I've been all over asia myself (not, Malaysia, maybe next trip thought there isn't a lot of ST there.)

[californiagrown]

i think jay said something like theres only one ice rink in the entire country!

[amyurban]

I went and did my "civic duty" and voted. So count me in as "co-operative".

And you guys can all have the Canadians. Not putting any of you down for being into them at all, to each their own, but aside from Apolo, I think the other EXTREMELY HOT short-tracker is Italy's Fabio Carta! Dear God in heaven, that man is sex-on-ice!

[MT]

californiagrown said:

i think jay said something like theres only one ice rink in the entire country!

sounds like Alabama. Hot, humid, no ice and they don't have sex (that is, admit to it)

Hey, Jay, are you an American or Malay?
If I keep this going, I'll be rappin today.
<lots of wierd spitting like rapper mouth noises follow>