Comparison of Apolo and Archuleta

[jennaceeta25]

I see it too, 2010orbust.

That's interesting you can find things out of Apolo that are similar to other people. I don't have major love for David Archuleta (Thanks for the last name cause I could never spell it right. ) cause he's younger than I am. But he has amazing talent and so does Apolo.

[apolostarr]

I can't believe this got posted and I can't believe that these apolo "fans" are even discussing this.
and I'll just leave it at that.

[mellie]

Why shouldn't an Apolo fan post their opinion? If the op wanted to compare Apolo and Archuleta, then they have a right to do so, and we shouldn't say they can't or question their loyalty to Apolo.

I often compare Apolo and RM because IMO they have a lot of similarities. That's my opinion, and I have a right to have an opinion.

[2010orbust]

Don't doubt that I'm an Apolo fan, Apolostarr. I'll be going to the 2010 Olympics with my sister hoping that we will see him break Olympic records, will you? If he does get some breaks in the entertainment industry I'll be one who purchases his products or tunes in, will you?

I wasn't sure how people would take comparison points because Apolo's sexiness is such a big part of your discussion here, but sexiness was not a basis in comparisons I made. I was comparing both as teen prodigies/phenoms and I do see some similarities. It's that simple. I removed the post itself, since it seemed somehow too controversial or "quirky" for some here.

I haven't posted much on this board, but have appreciated alot of the information about where to see competitions, etc. Casper, you've written below ....yes, I may choose what you call "quirky" topics sometimes. For example, I think it's very interesting to speculate as to why different people (like either Apolo or Archuleta) stand out above others or attract fans more than others with similar talents. Other great Olympic athletes don't have Apolo's fan base, and other talented singers don't have the big following that Archuleta has managed to develop. Thus I make comparisons where I see some common threads.

I've seen all kinds of threads that don't interest me on this site (Dreams of Apolo, Girl of the Week, etc). It's all in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? I could, but I try not to put others down for whatever they want to post or write about.

[Casper]

May 17, 2008 21:01:59 GMT -5 apolostarr said:

I can't believe this got posted and I can't believe that these apolo "fans" are even discussing this.
and I'll just leave it at that.

It must be that time of year--little to no Apolo news to post of literally. That's about the time that quirky topics (and I don't mean quirky in a bad way) start popping up, and with all due respect Apolostarr, I didn't find this one to be any different than some that have been discussed here through the years during slow Apolo news cycles without eliciting much negative response for that matter. They're mostly harmless topics intended to pass the time until "real Apolo news" surfaces.

Even though I'm not an active poster, I've been coming to this site since it was created. One of the things I have always loved about this site is that it is the most liberal of Apolo fan sites. Nowhere on this site is it explicit or implied that you can gush about Apolo but not too much lest you upset the "real ST aficionados," foreign and domestic. Nowhere on this site is it explicit or implied that you can gush all you want about Apolo, so long as you don't cast any doubt on his and Julainne's "relationship", real or imagined. Unlike these sites, at no time here have I ever observed or myself felt that "you're posting on eggshells" so to speak. Pretty much anything goes here, and I've seen some pretty controversial, thought-provoking, Apolo-related topics discussed here through the years. And even when discussions have gotten out of hand, the Admin and staff moderate with minimal drama--they’re almost invisible, which in my opinion is the highest form of praise for this board. I would hate for this site to start dictating what constitutes "real Apolo news" or "a real Apolo fan," but I'm sure that if and when that happens, they'll let us know. As it is, I have a hard time wrapping my mind around what a real Apolo fan should be anyway. What does that mean??? The OP gave us that lovely Apolo picture (#1 in the April Pic of the Month) that I'm sure you've added to your archive of Apolo photos. Considering all the gushing that went on over that picture, was she more a fan then than she is now; does that contribution negate this one??? OK, I'm being sarcastic now so I'll stop, but if participation on a thread that compares Apolo to an LDS non-athlete with an overbearing stage father is part of some subjective Apolo fan criteria, then consider me a non-fan also. I'm here aren't I . . . typing away.

[mtnme]

Great post Casper, and I have to agree 100%. What I've always liked about this site is that anyone can post any opinion on any subject, and as long as that opinion is stated without going for someone's jugular because they have a differing one, hey, it's all good - live and let live.

GA has always had a mixed bag of posters, from one spectrum to the other. Sometimes silly, often thoughtful, and usually amusing - It's always an enjoyable diversion and what I like about the place.

Those sites who's mission statement embodies the concept of "One opinion, all the time", for which the majority get their knickers all in a twist should anyone state an opinion to the contrary, are a snooze of a read most of the time, as the company line squelches any conversation and differing opinions that might veer into the realm of remotely thought provoking. And usually nastily so.

In fact conversation is often squelched period. Like sitting around with your friends with a bottle of wine and some tasty 'noshes', good conversation often goes where it will, wanders off on tangents, sometimes has an edge and tends to be a fluid, living thing. I'm always amazed while reading through the posts elsewhere, that should anyone be foolish enough to wander off topic, there is always someone who can't wait to slap the perpetrator's naughty little hand for doing so. (...can you say, "Forum Nazi's"?)

Some of those individuals have chosen to come here, fingers wagging, tongues scolding, spouting demands that others adhere to their agenda and point of view, - for which GA is worse off for it. Those parties destroy the relatively democratic nature of the site and subdue it to the conversational equivalent of watching paint dry. My reaction to such demands is always "...and exactly who died and put you in charge?"

You don't like someones opinion? Fine, feel free to rebut it, RESPECTFULLY, but kindly don't have the arrogance to tell someone they have no right to post it, or call your fellow board members opinions 'Moronic'. You don't like the peeps here on GA, the content, or the opinions stated? hey, that's your right, but might I suggest that if you really don't like it here, that you just consider leaving, (and don't let the cyber door hit you in the a$$ on the way out), instead of insisting everyone and everything here change to suit you.

I'm sorry 2010orbust that you removed your initial post. There was nothing offensive or disrespectful about it, you saw what was for you some similarities in two very talented people and you are more than welcome and have the right to voice your opinions. As you stated, you may not post here often, but I'm appalled that someone made you feel bullied into removing it. I think you'll find the majority of us find that behavior offensive - and untolerated.

Post on.....

EDITED: Apolostarr, Thank You for your apology.
This site has certainly taught me that lack of sleep and ruffled feathers are usually not a good combination.
If I'm really annoyed by something, it is often better to walk away and 'sleep on it".
Too bad I can't do that in real life! LOL

[apolostarr]

I apologize, I guess the stress of my finals got to me and I was a bit too defensive. I'm sorry ladies.

[evie5]

2010orbust, although I am not an Idol fan and have never heard David A sing (and don't know anything about him) I did enjoy the comparison. Please consider posting your insights again so others can read it.

[sak755]

May 18, 2008 8:28:51 GMT -5 evie5 said:

2010orbust, although I am not an Idol fan and have never heard David A sing (and don't know anything about him) I did enjoy the comparison. Please consider posting your insights again so others can read it.

I would be interested in reading the original post.

[A.O.Freak]

i never really thought apolo and david a. had simularities but now that i think about it, they are both shy,respectful,and very talented and what they do,and they speak from their heart..

[daisymomma]

I didn't see the original post and I am not even sure who the other guy is because I am not an American Idol fan.I have always loved and appreciated that on this board you can share your opinions but we don't all have to have the same one.

[butterfly]

2010orbust, I enjoyed reading your comparisons between Apolo and David. Don't be afraid to state your opinions here. We are all fans of Apolo and that's why we're all here in the first place. The only time I ever watch sports is during the Olympics because I'm not a huge sports fan. But something about Apolo just captured me when I saw him at the 2002 Olympics, and I love everything about him. Awhile back on this board, someone mentioned that Apolo resembles his mother and I asked to see a pic of her. I didn't know much about his personal life, and therefore didn't know that Apolo's mother was such a taboo subject around here. Needless to say, I was pretty embarrassed when I read some of the replies to my post, but I got over it and moved on. So please don't stop posting just because someone may have a different opinion about what you're saying. We're all pretty friendly here, so please stick around.

[jennaceeta25]

What happened to the beginning post? But yea, I hope you go, 2010orbust! I hope you get to see Apolo.

Apolostarr, I know how things can get to you! I had lots of finals and I still have one tomorrow. This to shall pass. Are your finals over?

btw, Daisy, I love you Apolo GOTW banner! Nice!

[number1fan]

2010orbust...it's unfortunate that you felt you had to remove your original post . please don't let this one time incident defer you from posting ok?


apologies accepted starr.


eta...neat siggie missy!!!

[2010orbust]

We’re obviously a diverse fan base. I think that perhaps I should have used the “introduce yourself” area before posting and warned you that I’m probably older than many of you and can come up with some pretty oddball reflections at times. This makes me a fun dinner guest if nothing else. My background and education is in electrical engineering and I’ve been lucky enough to see all kinds of countries and cultures through work. My sister, a microbiologist and 5 years older, started talking to me about this super speed skater back in 2002. She has attended his competitions all along and next time I’ll join her in 2010.

The more I’ve looked at this guy…his background, maturity, ethics, achievements and societal contributions…..the more I’ve been drawn to keep looking. I’ve come to care about what happens to him. Apolo has a special “something” beyond raw talent that appeals mightily across the board. What that “something” is intrigues me because it’s a strong pull. There is something that enables a young kid to rise above others in the first place (talent, strong faith, highly involved fathers, maturity, etc.) and then there is something else within us that accepts them (drawn to humility, a clean healthy look, youth, innocence, vulnerability, great achievement, overcoming obstacles, etc.). I will finally add that comparing commonalities is not equating individuals. Only Apolo is Apolo.

Thanks for the nice notes.